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1 rta mic + 1 nite off work =

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and a pretty waterfall...

[img width=750 height=531]http://www.soundpunk...20WATERFALL.JPG[/img]

And just as I thought, there's a wee hole round the 90-100Hz range...

Interestingly here's the plot of the soundcard after looping i/o - not bad for a sub $1000 card!

[img width=750 height=549]http://www.soundpunk...ARD%20GRAPH.JPG[/img]

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Pretty freaky, isn't it?!

Just check out those nodes (dead frequencies) in the lower frequencies (presumably caused by standing waves)!!!

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http://www.glenbrook...ves/u10l4c.html

Though looking at the obvious problem frequency 95Hz, it would suggest further issues at 190Hz, 285Hz (ie. multiples of 95Hz), but in reality, the subsequent problem harmonics are arriving several Hz lower than predicted each time.

What's the recommended waterfall plot decay time for a studio?

The only plots I've reviewed have been anechoic chamber tests of speaker cabinets, rather than real life rooms, so that one is looking quite frightening at more than 300ms (or more than a 1/3 of a second) natural room reverberation.

If you've got a moment, what's your room's exact dimensions and floor/furnishings? It'd be interesting to see how it relates to the data.

And what's the cost for the mic and software?

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Mic = Superlux ECM-999 rta mic ( CMI - $89rrp)
Software = Room Eq Wizard Free download (registration required)

Room Dimensions = 6.9m x 5.4 x 2.1

There's a large couch in 1 corner, a recliner bout 1.5m behind mix position and to the right of the aforementioned couch.

I'll whip up a pic on mspaint (as is the trend around here) to show desk/speaker/sub positioning...

or i could post photos... it's a bit of a mess tho

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and the prob frq is actually 94.2Hz

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^ 94.2 seems to relate closest to the longest part of the room, 6.9m

According to the good old freq = speed of sound / wavelength formula:

At 21 degrees = 343m/s so

343/6.9 = 49.71Hz

Each harmonic will be multiples of this, so: 99.42 Hz, 149.13Hz, 198.84Hz etc etc

For the 5.4m width, the frequency is a bit higher: 343/5.4 = 63.52Hz, also 127.04, 190.56 etc.

Ceiling height will almost double in freq as it is about half the distance as room width.

So given that you had 94.2 when the 'theoretical ideal' is 99.42 suggests that either:
- the room was warmer than 21 degrees when you measured it
- the measurements were taken a few cm off ideal position
- various objects like your couch are making the room a little bit smaller than the full 6.9m
- some comb filtering is happening between interfering frequencies bouncing around all the walls, floor and ceiling (people often forget the floor and ceiling have the same effect on reflected sounds that walls do)
- any of the above

Note the theortical ideals only account for perfectly parallel walls with no other surfaces or solid objects in the way, a perfect air speed of 343m/s and your speaker and mic sitting perfectly flush to the walls. In the bedroom these criteria are rarely met, so near enough is good enough :)

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^^^ Just the type of analysis I was pondering over too. Excellent work! :)

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ambient temp in my studio is around 25-26 degrees (unless im doin a marathon session, then i'd say it gets up to round 28-29??)

mic was sitting in mix position facing the speakers (i'd read that facing the ceiling is also used for measurement but moreso for bottom end)

theres a few solid objects occupying the corners hopefully doing some good - mind you, when i empty the room of all the couches and big corner hogging items it does sound different

its a fair size room which helps a lot i think - the room i moved out of was a master bedroom and this one is much larger than that - half of the walls are underground... dunno if that helps!?!

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How much does the frequency response of the mic affect tests like this? Or do they recommend you a list of mics with known frequency response and take that into account?

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measurement mics are made for this purpose with a very flat freq response

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There is a useful spreadsheet calculator than maps out the axial modes in your room: 
It also makes it easy to see what two surfaces the mode is occurring between
-so you know where you need to place your treatment in the room!
You can also type in your mix position and calculate the peaks or nulls that may occur depending on where you are sitting. 
This is what your room looks like on the spreadsheet Captain Terrific!

Here is a link to the spreadsheet calc by David Henderson:
http://www.ultimatea...0388/index.html

Also found a similar software program to the Room Eq Wizard.  It’s a free room analyses tool that runs on Windows. You don’t need to register!
http://www.room-tools.com/index.php





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