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[dizzy]

hey all

I pretty much do all my tracks in ableton now, having come from cubase. One thing I really miss is the ability to edit audio/samples as you can with cubase's audio editor.

For instance, i have a drum loop, and ive reversed a hit using dblue glitch. The problem is there's a click introduced and i can't get rid of it using any of glitch's parameters. If this was cubase, id open the sample in its audio editor, find out where the click is and put in some quick fades to remove it.

I note that you can edit a sample in an external editor, so ive set up audacity but it shits me because it always wants to save the file as an audacity project and not just overwrite the sample im editing. If i do want to overwrite it, i need to navigate to wherever it is in the abletons project heirarchy because audcity is lame and uses the last place you saved a file, rather than the directory the current file came from. I want something i can just click the 'edit' button in ableton, make the changes, hit save and close the external editor and go from there.

I also tried the slice to midi thingy, but i cant see a way to reverse the hit in that.

What audio editors are you guys using for this type of stuff? The basic stuff audacity does would be the minimum functionality required, and it would be a + if you could use vsts on the samples like you can in cubases audio editor.

Oh and one more quick q, in db glitch, theres an effect called stretcher, how can i replicate that not using glitch, is it just a time stretcher?

[TankF]

Hey guy, I dont know jack about ableton but have you thought about a really quick automated volume drop for the length of the click? FL has an editor but i don't even use it in these type of situations, find this way much easier. and yeah its just a time stretcher.

[dylab]

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For instance, i have a drum loop, and ive reversed a hit using dblue glitch. The problem is there's a click introduced and i can't get rid of it using any of glitch's parameters. If this was cubase, id open the sample in its audio editor, find out where the click is and put in some quick fades to remove it.

You could use the volume envelope of the clip to drop volume where click is
Or drop utitliy plug and and use gain clip envelope.

I dont use any audio editors, I slice in live with start/end points and record glitch/fx into new tracks

[Bonehead]

Well, I don't understand why people think Ableton's a poor editor. I've done entire post productions on it.

To remove the clip, just zoom into that part and change the volume envelope. Well yeah, you can't directly reverse I believe. I have sent Ableton a request to include the Scissors tool.
You can try out iZotope's Phatmatik Pro. Lets you do, all sorts of editing.

dblue's glitch is an awesome plugin : ) Stretcher can be emulated using the Warp Markers (In Ableton) and manually stretching the samples. Or any pitch shifting tool would work. : )

Hope that helped you.
Cheers.
BH.

[ijed]

Can't you use the split/consolidate functions?

[dizzy]

um where/what is that?

[Luko]

volume envelope within the clip setting to remove any glitches or clips you dont want

from memory and we are talking monthes now, consolodate is ctrl-j, split maybe ctrl-e

all the shortcuts are in the back of the manual anyways i think

i agree ableton is just as good at auido editing as any other DAW - cubase included

[dylab]

in arrangement view
select bit of clip and apple + E to split into bits
select clips and apple + J to consolidate split bits back into one

if i remember rightly

[dizzy]

ah beautiful, envelopes, split/consolidate and the "Rev" button in the sample editor have done what i need, thanks guys!