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So here I am beavering away on the most stable DAW I've ever had. Suddenly I think .."I'll transpose this whole section". Never used the transpose track before but it looks straight forward. And it works fine . Great! So I carry on working, adding more tracks in midi, then rendering them to audio. Then the crunch.
The new audio is out of pitch with the rest of the transposed section!
It seems that after recording the midi, which has been transposed up a semi tone, it then transposes the new audio up again a semitone!
The workround is to transpose that part back down a semi (using the tool bar at the top) but what a palava!
Am I doing something wrong or is it an oversight on Steiney's part? :-
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:14 PM
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How are you transposing?
Not being a Cubase user myself, I'm not gonna know the definitive answer, just thinking you may have activated some sort of 'real time global transpose' function?
I'm sure a Cubase guru (there's a few punks on here) will be able to sort you out.
Not being a Cubase user myself, I'm not gonna know the definitive answer, just thinking you may have activated some sort of 'real time global transpose' function?
I'm sure a Cubase guru (there's a few punks on here) will be able to sort you out.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:29 PM
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How are you transposing?
Not being a Cubase user myself, I'm not gonna know the definitive answer, just thinking you may have activated some sort of 'real time global transpose' function?
I'm sure a Cubase guru (there's a few punks on here) will be able to sort you out.
Not being a Cubase user myself, I'm not gonna know the definitive answer, just thinking you may have activated some sort of 'real time global transpose' function?
I'm sure a Cubase guru (there's a few punks on here) will be able to sort you out.
If there is a "uber" global funtion, I haven't found it yet. But you've got a point. I'll look.
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The boys at Cubase.net say I'm asking too much of Steiney's programmers. They're probably right but I get the feeling the idea hasn't been thought out properly. Maybe in the next update!
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 04:07 PM
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i'ma go play with the transpose track i will get back to you shortly 
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 05:00 PM
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the transpose track is an uber global real time transpose function....
ok what i think your doing is rendering a transposed section of midi to audio and the transpose track is sending it up a semitone as well ????? when you record the midi over the transpose track it's still recording the pre transposed notes if that makes sense the transpose track is pitching it in realtime with the TT active and set to 2 semi's you will be pressing a c and it will playback d... well thats my guess anyway
if you don't want your stuff transposed mute the transpose track pre render OR drop the info line ( little downward arrow button top left ) and under global quantize select independent ( follow is default) for the track and it will ignore the transpose track
the transpose track is ideally a post production feature not really for use in the composing stage things can and in your case have gotten confusing whilst composing. finish your track then use the TT .. if you want to do a section do an offline pitch shift or transpose you can always send it back with the TT later to see how it would have sounded
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ok what i think your doing is rendering a transposed section of midi to audio and the transpose track is sending it up a semitone as well ????? when you record the midi over the transpose track it's still recording the pre transposed notes if that makes sense the transpose track is pitching it in realtime with the TT active and set to 2 semi's you will be pressing a c and it will playback d... well thats my guess anyway
if you don't want your stuff transposed mute the transpose track pre render OR drop the info line ( little downward arrow button top left ) and under global quantize select independent ( follow is default) for the track and it will ignore the transpose track
the transpose track is ideally a post production feature not really for use in the composing stage things can and in your case have gotten confusing whilst composing. finish your track then use the TT .. if you want to do a section do an offline pitch shift or transpose you can always send it back with the TT later to see how it would have sounded
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 08:05 PM
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the transpose track is an uber global real time transpose function....
ok what i think your doing is rendering a transposed section of midi to audio and the transpose track is sending it up a semitone as well ????? when you record the midi over the transpose track it's still recording the pre transposed notes if that makes sense the transpose track is pitching it in realtime with the TT active and set to 2 semi's you will be pressing a c and it will playback d... well thats my guess anyway
ok what i think your doing is rendering a transposed section of midi to audio and the transpose track is sending it up a semitone as well ????? when you record the midi over the transpose track it's still recording the pre transposed notes if that makes sense the transpose track is pitching it in realtime with the TT active and set to 2 semi's you will be pressing a c and it will playback d... well thats my guess anyway
Interestingly, its me that's playing it up a semitone to keep it in tune with the rest. But, on playback, the transpose track leaves the new midi alone. So, some part of Cubase knows not to change things.
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if you don't want your stuff transposed mute the transpose track pre render OR drop the info line ( little downward arrow button top left ) and under global quantize select independent ( follow is default) for the track and it will ignore the transpose track.
Brilliant!
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the transpose track is ideally a post production feature not really for use in the composing stage things can and in your case have gotten confusing whilst composing. finish your track then use the TT .. if you want to do a section do an offline pitch shift or transpose you can always send it back with the TT later to see how it would have sounded
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