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[Woot?]

Hey Everybody,

So still having issues setting this MOTU up on my laptop. Via 4 pin of course. Latest drivers/firmware installed. Controller is Texas Ins. OHCI compliant. Did check the IRQ settings and there are about 4 devices on the PCI 17 channel with the 1394 controller (does this actually mean anything - sorry this is where my knowledge ends). Tried reassigning but XP wont let me.

Oh yeah the actual problem is that Windows just hangs/crashes when the MOTU is connected. Unable to bring up task manager - have to shut down manually via main switch. Does it regardess of whether or not I open a DAW. Tried also disabling other installed audio devices etc and nil love.

Any ideas/thoughts would be awesome. Thx guys - I know you'll figure it before MOTU email back 

Matt

[Woot?]

So I disabled all of the other devices on the same IRQ channel and all of the multimedia/netowrk/wireless etc devices and it seems to be running OK at the moment. Now i just have to figure out how to reassign all of the devices to different channels and hope they in turn don't interfere with each other
???

[Jester_Fu]

Yeah, Jay and i had this discussion on Tuesday. Because you bought the best quality Yum-Cha brand you could at the time, you're going to have a few IRQ/bus conflicts. If you're coming to Sydney on the weekend for "trash on" post/again Luke Fair, i'll invite you to crash at my new pad, and we can have a look at it then Give me a yell on the mobile.

[Woot?]

^^^ My yum-cha still has non-yumcha components. Does that still make it high risk for yumcha like behaviour. Anyway - I sorta stole my parents lappy and am thinking of giving it back and buying MAc or something. Anyway, next bit to the story is that the setup ran fairly stable for about 30mins, then started to crash again. I'm thinking that it may be a problem with the actual firewire hardware adaptor/thing cause when I disconnected the power to my laptop (full battery) the firewire disabled itself (don't tell me this is normal cause then I'll look uber noob) and this is what happens to the USB that I attempted to attach the virus to (??)

Thx for the invite JF, but I thought you would be at my house for trashy kick on at least for a bit

Still not sure about what I'm doing on saturday night (likely dying a painful, slow death)

Thx for the help.

[Jester_Fu]

Haha. Yeah, i'll be there. We can 'look' at it then

Before you went away, we spoke about a problem you were having with RAM. When you swapped it, all you were doing was moving the faulty RAM to the lower 'priority' slot. So, it didn't fix the problem as such, it just masked it - i was trying to explain how you find faulty RAM... and toss it... but failed. Sorry I still think you have corrupt RAM in it, on top of the IRQ issues you're having. We can have a look in BIOS and see if we can tweak from there, and the next step would be to turn IRQ steering off in Windows, then manually allocate some of the IRQ's to seperate things out.

The unfortunate thing with some of the manufacturers out there (Dell are particularly guilty on the low price models!) is they don't give much thought to how all these device will interact. Rather than putting seperate busses in, they start sharing things because it saves money/design. The only way to fix it, in some cases, is to find out what they have split up (like, they may have some of the USB on it's own bus, and be sharing a bus for another USB/FW) and then turn shit on/off to get things more stable. It would help if we fix that faulty RAM as well, IMO. There may be some other issues, so i'll come armed with a few things to test with.

[Cheyne]

yup most Dell 1394 is yum cha like a mofo ...  The front panel USB are usually under powered too .

[Jay Parker]

HAHAHAHA, jester in trashy fault finding mode... I can see it now...." how do we get the white smoke back in there....????"

[Spectrum]

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Haha. Yeah, i'll be there. We can 'look' at it then

Before you went away, we spoke about a problem you were having with RAM. When you swapped it, all you were doing was moving the faulty RAM to the lower 'priority' slot. So, it didn't fix the problem as such, it just masked it - i was trying to explain how you find faulty RAM... and toss it... but failed. Sorry I still think you have corrupt RAM in it, on top of the IRQ issues you're having. We can have a look in BIOS and see if we can tweak from there, and the next step would be to turn IRQ steering off in Windows, then manually allocate some of the IRQ's to seperate things out.

The unfortunate thing with some of the manufacturers out there (Dell are particularly guilty on the low price models!) is they don't give much thought to how all these device will interact. Rather than putting seperate busses in, they start sharing things because it saves money/design. The only way to fix it, in some cases, is to find out what they have split up (like, they may have some of the USB on it's own bus, and be sharing a bus for another USB/FW) and then turn shit on/off to get things more stable. It would help if we fix that faulty RAM as well, IMO. There may be some other issues, so i'll come armed with a few things to test with.

..eek!!  ??? ;D

Call me a simpleton... but that is exactly the reason I steer away from this stuff. I know PCs work brilliantly when they're working. Just always seems like such a tedious process of elimination troubleshooting them when they're not.

Anyway, I'm sure you guys will nut it out. Gotta fill that 36hr post-party window of opportunity with something constructive, eh?!

[Jester_Fu]

Jay - Up yours. I've had some of my finest fixing moments while trashed - Fixed the quartz lock on my Sony turntable while pissed and not able to focus on the screw driver... swapped a DJ mixer out and replaced it with a new one, DURING the DJ making a mix... WITHOUT dropping the sound or interfering with the mix... didn't even spill my beer... while stoned and tripping. The list goes on.

Anyway, i'll bring the vacuum cleaner. As long as we trap the while smoke, i'm sure we can get it back in there. I mean, it must have come out somehow!

Spectrum - Pfft. Piss off Apple fan boi. You're on the same platform as us Pc dorks now. You'll have the same hardware issues if Apple was to go yum-cha and provide the features Woot has at sub $1200AUD.

[Spectrum]

;D

[Cheyne]

;D ;D ..  We've changed a table whilst the DJ was playing once , 3 guys , holing the decks and mixer in two hands each , while the DJ cue's up the next track ..  Like mixing on water ;D

[Jester_Fu]

Yeah, changing a table is cool... but think about it - plugging and unplugging 2 decks from a mixer feeding into the FOH... while the DJ makes a mix.... and putting them back into a new mixer. I'm telling you... it took 10 minutes to figure out exactly how i was going to re-patch, while he was still mixing from one deck to the other, without droping the sound or making him miss a mix.

Trick DJ'ing is for kiddies! Try some Trick sound engineering. Still, there was no fault with the gear, it's just that the next DJ had particular 'requirements' with the mixer and wanted his kit put in. I told him i'd do it, but he could fuck off and let everyone else use it until the end of the night if i pulled it off without interrupting his mix. Oh, and he had to buy me more beer ;D

PS: Friday lunch beers rock! I'm off to a meeting now. zzzzzzzzzz.