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[SilverStreak]

Guys

When setting up a new midi device, is anyone aware of a way to create a full bank of 127 presets with the same MSB/LSB values with out having to go in 4x127 times and enter each value individually?  :bang:

[SilverStreak]

Ok dudes, apologies for my early Sunday morning tardness but I sussed this out, and for anyone who wants to know this may be helpfull.

When setting up a midi device with additonal banks assigned to one channel you assign multiple presets being 'program change 0-127' and then Ranges of MSB in this case MSB:067 and Range set to relative bank LSB number this being 0

This then creates a whole bank of unamed presets 0-127 but if you have more banks you keep the 'in this case' MSB:067 and change the range of LSB: to 0 for bank 0 and 1 for bank 1 and so forth.

You should probly export and save these settings as they don't seem to automatically come accross to a new Cubase project. But at the end of the day Streaky can sit there and scroll through additional presets with his scrolly mouse and we can all live happily ever after

[Spectrum]

Having just replied here...
http://www.soundpunk...php?topic=120.0
...I see, cool, you're on to it some more.

Now when you say "Streaky can sit there and scroll through additional presets with his scrolly mouse and we can all live happily ever after", are you scrolling generic numbers between 0 and 127 or actual patch names?

I can easily rip out the Beat Garden patch names from the Orbit 3 (w/ beat garden & TeCnO ROMs) midnam patch name file from http://www.digicake.com/midnam/ and send 'em to you. And I have the XL-1 names too if you need 'em. Sorry, if I misunderstood and you have the actual patch names rigged up in Cubase already.

Hold a sec, that answers my previous question re what was E-mu's double ROM 64MB module, it was the Oribit 3!

www.vintagesynth.com/emu/orbit3.shtml

I really should do some real work now...

[SilverStreak]

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Having just replied here...
http://www.soundpunk...php?topic=120.0
...I see, cool, you're on to it some more.

Now when you say "Streaky can sit there and scroll through additional presets with his scrolly mouse and we can all live happily ever after", are you scrolling generic numbers between 0 and 127 or actual patch names?

I can easily rip out the Beat Garden patch names from the Orbit 3 (w/ beat garden & TeCnO ROMs) midnam patch name file from http://www.digicake.com/midnam/ and send 'em to you. 

Umm I only get preset 0-127. No names. But hey the sounds are there and I can just look at the front panel and see what the preset is. Unless theres some way to import all preset names aswell into the preset banks, I think i'd have to sit there and manually type all the names in 4x127........which isnt gonna happen.

If you ever find any blank 32mb e-mu roms I'll be able to author a beat garden for you, as I can do it with the xl1-t. But from what I hear the blank roms are neally as expensive as the pre loaded roms.

[Spectrum]

E-MU Beat Garden ROM - Bank 0
bts:Beat Garden
bas:Beat Square
syn:Tulip Bells
vox:FlowerBed
bts:Disco Garden
bts:RnB Flower 2
bas:Oak Tree
git:Riff me 2
pad:DestyFlower1
bas:Bamboe DJ
arp:Beat Flache
sub:LowerMeBass1
pr1:Percussion 1
pr2:Percussion 2
pr3:Percussion 3
sn1:Snares 1 St.
sn2:Snares 2mono
sn3:Snares 3 St.
sn4:Jungle SN St
sn5:Jngl SN St+M
sn6:Elec SN 1mon
sn6:Elec SN 2 St
sn6:Elec SN 3
sn6:Elec SN 4
sn7:Elec SN+CLP1
clp:Claps St.1
clp:Claps St+M.1
clp:Claps Stack1
bd1:BG BD 1
bd1:BG BD room 2
bd2:BG BD Elec 1
bd2:BG BD Elec 2
hh1:HiHats monoI
cb1:Cymb Rides 1
cb2:Cymb Rides 2
tom:Beat Toms
kit:Jazz   Bass
sfx:Beat Field 1
sfx:Beat Field 2
git:Riff me 1
syn:XyloSynth D
amb:Snowy Trees
bas:Slap it 1cho
sfx:Special   Dr
syn:Angel Sword
git:Muted Alka
bas:Jungle GSM
pad:GardenString
bas:PhatSawer
amb:Angel Pad
led:Funky Plant
kb2:Aurora
bts:Z-planer
bts:Filter Disco
bts:Slowa
pad:Silk Padings
bas:Analoga Tree
syn:Chimy Pad
bts:Rock Garden
bts:Tulip Garden
bas:Saw Leaves
bts:Post groove
bts:Hi Temp
pad:Artic Sweep
bas:Spruce
sfx:SF Chimes
bts:Jungle Eyes
bts:ScottsValley
bts:Low Rider
bts:Swing Garden
bas:Swing Garden
bts:Fantasy
bas:Acous-Syn 5
pad:Versatility
bas:Voca T-Bee
bts:Park groove
arp:M-Es Twenty
vox:Fab Syntha
bts:DnB Garden
git:Plectrum-B
kb2:Butterfly
bas:Balled
hit:Newish II
syn:PlantoDance
arp:Beat Chord 1
pad:Gardensynth
arp:T-Beat 1
bas:Wild Plant
vox:Big BG Choir
syn:Garden Party
hit:@ BeatGarden
bts:Moveda Floor
bas:Cactus VI
pad:Dramatique
bts:SFX Garden
brs:Beat Section
syn:Beat Sweep 1
arp:git C3-C6 1
arp:git C1-C4 1
bas:Dream Tree
hit:SF Garden
arp:Beat Chord 2
bas:Flip Trance
bts:ElectroField
bts:Brush Garden
bas:Acous-Syn 4
pad:Bombasticom
arp:Velo Garden2
pr1:BPM LF0 1
pr2:BPM LFO 1
pr3:BPM LFO 1
sfx:Big Break C4
bas:24dB Plant
vox:Open Flower
bas:JD-Stack IX
pad:FlowerFields
arp:git C3-C6 2
arp:git C1-C4 2
bts:Shake Garden
bts:Oak groove
bts:GroovyGroove
bas:Pick S it Is
pad:Morning
bts:DnB Warp
bts:RnB Flower 1
syn:Garden Stab
bas:Slap a Synth
bpm:Mars Garden?


E-MU Beat Garden ROM - Bank 1
pr1:Cajon 1
pr1:BeatRing 1
pr1:BeatRing 2
pr1:BeatRing 3
pr1:BeatRing 4
pr1:Cabasa 1
pr1:Cowbells 1
pr1:Egg E4-G4 1
pr1:Egg D4-D#4 1
pr1:Egg A#4-C5 1
pr2:Djembe gr1
pr2:Djembe gr4
pr2:BigM Shaker1
pr2:SleighBell 1
pr2:Agogo bells1
pr2:FingerCymb 1
pr2:Bongos 1
pr2:Congas 1
pr2:Congas 2
pr2:Tumba fx 1
pr3:Triangle 6 1
pr3:Triangle 9 1
pr3:Shaker Mid 1
pr3:Shaker Mid 2
pr3:Shaker Plas2
pr3:Shaker Plas3
pr3:Ganzeiro 2
pr3:Ganz.Shaker1
pr3:Ganz.Shells1
pr3:Udo 1
pr3:Caxici DBL 1
pr3:Caxici DBL 2
pr3:Caxici DBL 3
pr3:Tarine 2
pr3:Tarine 3
pr3:Tambourim 1
pr3:Tambourine 2
pr3:Shekere 1
pr3:Crash Box 1
prc:Xylophone
syn:GardenStack1
sub:AcoustyLow
bas:Slap it 1
bas:Marc One Cho
syn:Click N Bass
pad:Artic White
org:Organ Bass
hh1:HiHats poly
sub:LowerMeBass2
arp:Beat U-know1
git:Riff me 3
bas:Sl+Pull1 F#1
bas:Sl+Pull2 F#1
pad:SolinaString
bas:Udo Frame I
git:Muted Meaty
syn:XyloSynth C
led:Funky Tree
bas:Spruce Leaf
vox:Botanic
syn:RnB Stab
sfx:FightDrum
led:Aurora Flute
syn:TumbaLa Bass
arp:T-Beat 2
pad:DestyFlower2
bas:Dorn @ Plant
pad:Faling2Leave
git:Muted
syn:Djembe Toys
arp:Velo Garden1
vox:BG singers
bas:Spruce Color
pad:Romarin
led:Beat da bass
kb2:Garden keys
sub:Deep Forest
pad:VocaleOrgan
bas:Park II
syn:RnB Bell I
bas:JD-Stack I
bpm:Evening Vox
syn:Nippon
hit:Newish I
bas:OrganTube
arp:Cords Tree
syn:Big Section
pad:Bowed Angel
bas:Acacia Shade
pad:Artic Voices
syn:Pro-Teusion
bas:Acoustic
git:Muted Bliss
prc:Xylo-Udo
vox:Synthamike I
bas:Distal
arp:git C3-C6 1W
arp:git C1-C4 1W
arp:git C3-C6 2W
arp:git C1-C4 2W
arp:git C3-C6 3W
arp:git C1-C4 3W
arp:git C3-C6 4W
arp:git C1-C4 4W
arp:git C3-C6 5W
arp:git C1-C4 5W
arp:git C3-C6 6W
arp:git C1-C4 6W
arp:git C3-C6 7W
arp:git C1-C4 7W
arp:git C3-C6 8W
arp:git C1-C4 8W
arp:git C3-C6 3
arp:git C1-C4 3
arp:git C3-C6 4
arp:git C1-C4 4
arp:git C3-C6 5
arp:git C1-C4 5
arp:git C3-C6 6
arp:git C1-C4 6
arp:git C3-C6 7
arp:git C1-C4 7
arp:git C3-C6 8
arp:git C1-C4 8
arp:git C3-C6 9
arp:git C1-C4 9
arp:git C3-C6 T
arp:git C1-C4 T



E-MU Beat Garden ROM - Bank 2
sfx:a cold wind
bas:Jungle GSM 2
arp:Film Chaser
git:Muted Rave
arp:T-Beat 3 Mwl
sfx:Djembe I
arp:Velo Garden3
hit:Newish IV
vox:Thin Leaves
bas:PWM Cajon
pad:Eastern Wind
syn:Ting Shells
bas:Udo Octave
pad:Phasing Tree
sfx:NovaZembla 2
syn:ScottsValley
bas:Jungle Nok
pad:PlantoVox
hit:Radio W Beat
pad:Tilleul
sfx:DSP chat
arp:MdWhl Trance
bas:SynthaConga
arp:PlasticWheel
arp:SlapYourKeys
sub:Pepples I
vox:Thinny-A
pr1:BPM LF0 2
pr1:BPM LF0 3
pr1:BPM LF0 4
pr1:BPM LF0 5
pr1:BPM LF0 6
bas:Mahony I
syn:Club Opener
arp:Com Plex
bas:Analoga Puls
arp:Beat O-Phat
sfx:Djembe Oct
vox:Next 2 Organ
arp:Stereo Movie
bas:SQR laChorus
pr2:BPM LFO 2
pr2:BPM LFO 3
pr2:BPM LFO 4
pr2:BPM LFO 5
pr2:BPM LFO 6
vox:Gardenlized
arp:SlapPull F#1
bas:Mahony II
syn:RnB Bell IV
arp:Beat Chord 1
pad:Epicea
bas:Djembe Udo I
pad:Sweep it up
sub:Pepples II
pr3:BPM LFO 2
pr3:BPM LFO 3
pr3:BPM LFO 4
pr3:BPM LFO 5
pr3:BPM LFO 6
bas:Cajon Udo
syn:XyloSynth C
arp:Epicea Bass
syn:Obie CanObie
bas:Mahony III
vox:Deep Aahs I
arp:Tuber B Mute
bas:Deep Trance
bas:TumbaConga
arp:Pick a Synth
pad:Faling Leave
sfx:Dig Scratch1
sfx:Dig Scratch2
led:Sunflower
bas:Click a Bass
vox:Hi Lady
led:Hi Trumpet
arp:Cyber Plant
bpm:Alien Park
syn:XyloSynth B
bas:Cajon MarkII
sfx:starfighter
vox:FlowerSmell
bas:Saw laChorus
bas:Djembe Frame
pad:Vocoderlon
git:Muted Flanga
hit:Newish Octav
arp:Seek Quence
syn:Obie Plant
syn:My BelloBell
sfx:Tuned Frame
arp:Beat U-know2
pad:Lavende
arp:Velo Garden3
syn:Moveda Floor
led:Mini Plant
syn:Iceland
sfx:Beat Field 3
sfx:Beat Field 4
arp:Turn a knob
sn6:Elec SN 5 St
sn6:Elec SN 6 St
sn6:Elec SN 7 St
sn1:Snares 1 FX
sn1:Snares 2 FX
bas:Slowa Deep
sfx:Dig Scratch4
sfx:Dig Scratch5
bas:Lower Swing
bas:Shake Garden
amb:Dawning
sfx:Beat Field 5
sfx:Beat Field 6
bas:Ace of Saw
pad:Meta Macro
git:Plectrum-A
bas:RnB Flower 1
led:Pulsy Plant
git:Muted Switch
git:Plectrum-F
bas:Puls Number5
sub:SinusMoogy
bpm:E-mu Garden
git:Plectrum-Q
bas:RnB Flower 2
kit:Riff set
syn:RnB BellXylo


E-MU Beat Garden ROM - Bank 3
bas:Marc One
bas:Marc Three
bas:Marc   Synth
bas:Marc Six
bas:Marc Five
bas:Marc Middy
sfx:Alien Steps
bas:Pick Chorus
bas:Sweep Leaf
arp:T-Beat 4 Mwl
bas:JD-Stack II
bas:JD-Stack III
bas:JD-Stack IV
bas:JD-Stack V
bas:JD-Stack VI
bas:JD-StackVII
bpm:Botanic Rain
bas:Distal II
bas:SpeakFlower
bas:Deja Vu I
pad:E-motion
bas:Coniferae
bas:Vibirnum
bas:T-Beat
bas:Elm Tree
bas:AttackChorus
bas:Cactus I
bas:Acous-Syn 1
bas:CajonFrame
sfx:digital H2O
arp:Velo Garden2
hit:Newish Phat
bas:Marc One Two
sub:Dark Earth
bas:Creamy Palm
sub:Underclick
bas:Four Voice
bas:Cactus II
bas:Acous-Syn 2
sub:PulsyMoogy
prc:Tuned Cajon
bas:Cajon Stack
pad:Bowed Flower
sfx:Huh of Jon
sfx:Yell of Jon
sfx:Nice drink !
sfx:Tuned Tube
vox:FemalaSpace
bas:Spruce Robes
bas:Deja Vu II
bas:PhataTubes
bas:Cactus III
sub:Dark Forest
bas:Acous-Syn 3
bas:Jungle GSM 3
vox:Deep Aahs II
sfx:Tumba Tuned
sfx:Tuned Shells
sfx:Doppler FX 1
sfx:Doppler FX 2
sfx:Groove Click
vox:ThinnyHigh
sfx:GardenChimes
pad:Stack 4 U
bas:Spruce Top
bas:AcaciaChorus
pad:Reso Fields
bas:AttackDeeper
sub:Deep Pedal
bas:Djembe UdoII
sfx:La La synth
sfx:X-LoFi Snare
sfx:X-Voca Snare
sfx:X-Meta Snare
sfx:Door Snare
sfx:Broken Door
sfx:NovaZembla 1
vox:ThinnyOrgan
sfx:Doppler FX 3
sfx:Doppler FX 4
arp:Puls Plant
bas:Cactus IV
bas:Organ Udo
bas:Acous-Syn 6
bas:Udo
vox:FemalaSynth
sfx:SF bug
sfx:SF bug ST
sfx:FightDrum M
vox:A Big Aah
syn:OvertoneBell
led:Garden Flute
prc:Frame Drum
prc:Tuned Conga
prc:TunedQuinto1
prc:TunedQuinto2
bas:Cactus V
bas:5th Organ
bas:Acous-Syn 7
sub:SawyMoogy
vox:FemalaHiss
syn:RnB Bell II
prc:Tumba Wuha
prc:Tumba Plop
prc:TunedDjembe1
prc:TunedDjembe2
prc:Tuned Udo FX
prc:Tuned Sizzle
prc:Tuned China
prc:Tuned Sleigh
syn:Snaro Wood
sfx:Tumba   More
sub:Wood
bas:CajonSawer
bas:Udo Frame II
vox:FemalaDream
sfx:DeepSpring 1
sfx:DeepSpring 2
bas:Park I
hit:Radio W Big
syn:Bass a Wood
prc:Tuned BassDr
pad:Eucalyptus
arp:Hi Tech Tree
syn:RnB Bell III
sfx:NovaZembla 3
vox:OrganVocals
:TemplateV1.0

[Spectrum]

How's that for a good use of bandwidth?! Now you got to just find out how to copy 'em straight into Cubase - bank by bank - rather than patch by patch. There must be a way.

[Jester_Fu]

Dude - have you googled? You're not the only one on earth using Cubase and that synth... so maybe someone else has done it for you already, or has a midi sysex file for you to load. I know that's the case with the AN1x... i've just never used it. There's also a part in cubase where you can 'setup' different synths. I don't remeber what it's called, but i think it sets all the CC stuff up for that model and brand of synth, if you can find the file.

I'd have a quick flick through Cubase and tell you exactly what it's called... but i just finished packing up the studio (again) in preperation for a move to my new house I don't move for a couple of weeks... but i fly to Singapore and then Malaysia today with work... back for a week... move... fly out of the state and then country. Not that i'm boasting ;D

[Jester_Fu]

Fuckin' 'ell Spectrum. At least let the rest of us finish posting before you put crap like that up! ;D

[Spectrum]

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Dude - have you googled? You're not the only one on earth using Cubase and that synth... so maybe someone else has done it for you already

What does Cubase call its "patch name" files?

If I can, I'll start with someone's premade file, or whip up my own. Invariably there are typos on the d/l versions. Good starting point though.

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I'd have a quick flick through Cubase and tell you exactly what it's called... but i just finished packing up the studio (again) in preperation for a move to my new house I don't move for a couple of weeks... but i fly to Singapore and then Malaysia today with work... back for a week... move... fly out of the state and then country. Not that i'm boasting ;D

Haha..  Good luck with the move. Always good once it's done, just a PITA in the meantime.

We'll be free in Melbourne from Thursday 19th April. Can't remember when your commitments are. Looking foward to catching up whenever. Victoria Bitter all round! Ahem....

[Spectrum]

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Fuckin' 'ell Spectrum. At least let the rest of us finish posting before you put crap like that up! ;D

I've been up since 3:27am this morning handtyping those gazillion patches. ;D

You should have just gotten up earlier.

[SilverStreak]

Ok here is an explanation of sorts of how to do it with Cubase, they're called 'patch scripts'

http://www.soundonso...6f84e235586973a

[Spectrum]

Well, editing one of these raw 'patch scripts' would be a royal pain in the ass.

Look further for a 'patch script editor' (or surely Cubase can do it natively?) that you can drag'n'drop those patch name lists straight into.

With those lists as they are, it'd take less than 3 mins to generate the appropriate midnam file for Pro Tools.

There must be a just-as-easy (if not easier) system for Cubase. Again, I'd be very suprised that if Cubase won't let you do if from right within the program. The fact that Pro Tools relies on a Mac-only third-party app is one of the main factors (I thought) that sets it behind the 'real' MIDI sequencers.

[SilverStreak]

From what I can see 'In The FM' of my SE (special tardo edition) 1.07 theres no patch script editor. It assumes your only upgrading 10x patches etc so you only have to rename 10x patches etc not 4 banks of 127.

Anyways its no biggy, Ive managed to write some stuff thats the most lowdown fattest house bass/beats I've ever done today.

[Spectrum]

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Ive managed to write some stuff thats the most lowdown fattest house bass/beats I've ever done today.

Hehe wicked... Now yer cookin' with gas!  8)

[Spectrum]

Hey, just checking in whether you had any more success with patch names in Cubase? I'd  completely forgotten that the CherryPicker app (that I use for Pro Tools' patch names creating/editing) can also spit out Cubase formatted files. It'd take literally 2 mins to export a version for you, assuming that's all there is to it. Worth a try. You just need to know where to put the file on your system.

EDIT: Just read your 'tardo edition' comment... does that mean it doesn't support any pre-made patch scripts?

[SilverStreak]

^^^
No it doesn't seem to have any patch script support, only if you type them in manual......and as you've probly already guessed 'I CBF'D

Its cool though I have the xl1t very close and I just switch ch to see what patch is on the front panel.

PS. BG rom has about 100 arps and has given me a shitload of new drums to play with. Totally getting into arps over drum kits. Thankyou very much for hookin me up I owe you one big time

[Stainboy]

Hi

I was wondering about this. I made my own Patchname Script file for my Yammie VL70m ages ago and then found a Device panel on the net somewhere that works nicely as an editor (with a few minor modifications by me) and ideally I would like to be able to combine them both in one file but you can't cut and paste from one to another as far as I can see and I really can't face entering all the patchnames again one by one.