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[SilverStreak]

Ok so are there any versions of cubase that one can run as a slave???

Does anyone do this?

[Cheyne]

As in a Re-Wire slave ? ...

Would you really want to ? ...  Iv slaved Ableton into Cubase but not the other way round  :-

[SilverStreak]

^^^
No, as in cubase recieves midi clock and starts and stops/ keeps midi time from an external clock.

[Cheyne]

Oh , right ... yes you can somehow ...  I think iv read it somewhere ...  I cant remember how though , so I think im pretty useless to you right now .. soz


Try here:
http://www.cubase.ne...2853&highlight=

[Jester_Fu]

Go to "Transport->Sync Setup". Up the top of that dialogue box, you'll see an option for "Midi Time Code". Select that and it enables you to pick the MTC source. You can also sync it to your ASIO audio interface if you want to. I've never used it, but the help on it's probably pretty good.

I'm guessing you've got an MPC or one of thsoe Roland MC thingys, and you're trying to sync cuabse to it???

[Cheyne]

That sounds like the one ...

[hps909]

yes you can sync cubase both ways via MTC or midi clock  via the methd described above

[SilverStreak]

My geigh SE 1.07 doeszn't have those MTC options. I get time code source options

1.NONE
2.VST LINK

and thats it..........maybe I'll get the extra functionality with SE3?.?.?

[Jester_Fu]

Umm... I'd check that before forking out the cash. SL and SX have it (i'm running SL3)... but i've not looked at Cubase Studio 4 or the SE/Light editions.

Seriously consider SL3. I saw a copy in a Billy Hyde store the other week.  Didn't haggle the price, but it's not the current version any more so it should be more negotiable. SL3 has about 95% the features of SX, but at 1/2 the cost. I got my copy when i was in NY last year for $500AUD without using any upgrade options.

[Cheyne]

Theres academic versions of Cubase 4 on eBay now for about $600AUD .... 

[hps909]

i got mine academic for $599 through my fiance and i was able to register it in my name aswell ..

cubase studio 4 is only $300ish academic

[Cheyne]

yea but isnt  Cubase Studio  the cut down version ?

[hps909]

it's like SL3,    CBS4  lacks surround, a few of the new plugins and a few other "pro" features like pro dithering algorhythms and control room otherwise it's identical.  put it this way cubase 4 is not worth double the price of CBS4 or the otherway around ....


ok here's the lowdown CB4 and CBS4 only sync to MTC not midi clock but they transmit MMC MTC and midi clock

[no-fi]

I've tried syncing SX3 to SX3 (my laptop, ed's desktop) using MTC, and it was shit.

everything ended up out of time, and wrong.

I've tried syncing cubase to my mpc. same deal.

as far as I'm concerned running cubase SX3 in sync to MTC is broken.

Haven't really tested any other versions, though was looking at upgrading to cubase 4 sometime. (only problem in upgrading software when you have a music partner is your partner needs to upgrade too, or you end up with incompatible setups!)

[Jester_Fu]

If  it was my software, i wouldn't be paying much attention to it given what the competitors support

That said, you only tried the MPC clock, right? Any idea how accurate those are?? Which midi interface were you using? Perhaps it intorduced something???

I don't have an MPC, but previous experience kinda leads me to think they're a lot more sloppy than the cubase internal algorithm, and certainly nowhere near something like a Motu Timepiece AV. Like, it should be pretty good, given Cubase tries to bridge that music/video gap in some way.

I guess the other question is how were you syncing? Like, i know with my AN1x if i try and sync it i need to send it a clock signal with every midi CC or note change otherwise it gets sloppy very quickly... yet stuff like the K-Station is easily pleased. It's part the reason i got a Motu MidiExpress 128... these data hungry old Yammy's work best on a dedicated port. But, yeah... maybe cubase got the clock signal with tempo and start, and then calced where it should be... which is differenct to where the MPCactually is?

Mah...

[SilverStreak]

Seeing as SE 1.07 has the 1 option for VST system link. Would a possible workaround be to run some other software to recieve the clock initially and then trigger cubase via vst link???  Or would this be delving too deeply into the land of unstabilty and dodgyness?

What would be the best software for this?

I really don't want to fork out for a new package as I only use the midi functionality for external h/w synths and I'd be paying for a whole heap of vst crap I'd never use.

[Jester_Fu]

You could try that... it may work. No suggestions of software from me, though

[no-fi]

my midi interface is a motu midi express 128.
MPC has rock solid timing. I'd trust it before cubase, any time.

The setup was correct. cubase just didn't deliver.

I've been recommended that the only way to reliably sync two cubases together on 2 separate computers is using the "system link" (? I think??) option, where you take a digital out from one computer, and run that to a digital in of the other computer, then set them both up to sunc that way.

[Jester_Fu]

Interesting. I know what you're talking about... it's a similar method to interfacing cubase to a video system.

[hps909]

there is an offset amount that you have to set up on the MPC to allow for latency and whatnotusing MTC .. but having said that i could never sync cubase to my MPC as the master reliably would drift all over the place .. but as soon as i made cubase the master i would latch and hold reliably for hours ...